Recently I called my good friend Pastor Perry Noble on the phone and just chatted with him for a few minutes about ministry and I thought, hey it would be fun to record this and let everybody listen in on our phone call.

It’s kind of voyeuristic. But that’s what makes it fun. This is a little different than a typical leadership interview because it’s really just two friends chatting about stuff. Hope you enjoy listening. Let’s us know what you think and we may let you bug phones on a more regular basis in the future.